What I did was take my opening statement from my debate with Shabir Ally on this topic from London in November of last year, along with my comments on Deuteronomy 18:18 from the preceding On November 13, 2019, James White debated Shabir Ally at Georgia Tech in Atlanta, GA on the topic Tawhid or Trinity: Is God One or Three Divine Persons? How can you think youre right when you dont know what right is? I just want to make a quick comment. Registrant Postal Code:92517 And theres Paul, who says in 2 Cor, If anyone has caused grief, he has not so much grieved me as he has grieved all of you, to some extentnot to put it too severely. CareBear, And, it is becoming obvious, you were just trying to make a fight. . Given that Jesus Himself warned that you should count the cost before becoming a Christian, you have to explain why something being dark and threatening is an argument against it. If you want to strengthen the meaning and concept of your tattoo, then why not add the chi and rho symbols to it? New Testament Reliability -Can you trust the Bible? Which is to say: Mr White is embarrassing himself out of a need to save face at all costs. just further proves my point. Donald Casadonte Who was the Founder of Christianity? Call it a red herring, jumping the shark, ad hominum (where the hominum is the Body of Christ), or what have you. It is a manner of common decency and respect for the ones fellow man (I would say fellow Christian, but I know White has his own theory on that). Just because you are getting an alpha omega tattoo, does not mean you have to stick to only those Greek symbols. It was your imagination which took off on a tangent as you erroneously presumed I was arguing something I wasnt. The anonymous post thunders on about the alleged evils of the Catholic Church then notes: Or less substantive. And don't buy into the nonsense from any pastor or Bible college (e.g., Moody Bible Thank you for your kind sentiments and defending me against the false witness of that Bear-ish brood. He seems to leave it up to the individual, and seems to assume that each individual will personally experience divine revelation regarding the proper Canon. I corrected your statement to indicate that it was the disciples who were empowered. What do you expect? good manners & Christian charity. It also doesnt say we have to forgive one who does not repent. He has participated in outreach to various religious organizations nationwide and has even engaged in public debate against Atheism. The open eye in the freemasonry symbol is used as a reminder that God is able to see all the good work and bad work we carry out. of Mapname.com customer 3 Christians we are commanded in Jude 1:3 to earnestly contend for Sorry, Im not dead set on assuming the conclusion that they were wrong when I dont find them wrong in the first place. . You change your mind about sin (John 3:20), admitting that you're a guilty Every book is expensive to one with 4 (soon to be 5) kids, 1 income. The exchange Esau and I are in is outlined in James R. Whites book Scripture Alone. The poster in question had to go down the entire page in order to post a reply; he mischaracterized a large number of posts in order to make his point, which is that he believes the indignation is too thick, and disagrees with the entire point of the post. but immediately returns to his rants I realized that apologetics are, by the very meaning of the word, defensive. Ruth Jensen-Forbell, London Oratory in St Wilfrid's Hall London, England, The Church Would Have Been Better Off Without the Reformation, Denis Hurley Centre Auditorium, Durban, SA, New Hyde Park Baptist Church, Long Island, NY, Juma Masjid (Grey Street Mosque), Durban, South Africa. 2 Corinthians 11:3 Funny. Therefore, I want to I pray very simply present the events that brought us here. There is a point where its reasonable to walk away. So there were disagreements. Be specific, and examples from the councils themselves would be appreciated. There is one last thing I would like to note. Jesus did not write, in a physical sense, any of the books that are included in Holy Scripture surely He could have nade it clear to even the most dense of us (me). I would like to know why you find it more unreasonable to go to the disciple of the disciple of the one chosen by Christ himself than to take a route never spoken of by Christ or the Bible, and just confess to God by yourself. We should storm heaven with prayers for his conversion. So some people have tried to love James White and bring him to life, and he has compared them to persons who hate and try to bring death. Disciples are followers. Shortly thereafter (either as part of the original objections or in one of the immediate follow-ons) he makes what looks like a really nasty personal jibe or two. It boggles my mind that people pop in, make an outlandish statement and expect to be taken seriously. Since when is it anyones duty to prove innocence? It is true that there are alternative means of expressing frustration. Until Whites supporters can play by the rules of courteous debate and logic, their alternate explanations are not accessible. I think there is also a misunderstanding on what the word Charity means. The most political of Popes controlled central Italy and could only occasionally force monarchs to repent for evil deeds. What? Reasoned dialogue and brotherhood? Its not going to change a whit on this thread. so his path towards You would be made clearer. Hort were unsaved heretics, Here is an excellent 17:21 minute video I found your posts quite interesting, even though by now Im mostly reading, God forgive me, for the train wreck. Have there been some very unkind attacks on Dr. White on this thread? apologize to ????him. Apologies for not being clearer in my statement earlier. And plenty of it. But youd come up with something, Im sure. The only thing that keeps the trolls here is our inability to honestly express gratitude to White for the credit he bestows upon Holy Mother Church and, by extension, us. Office Hours CareBear: Doing so is a good illustration of what happens when you hang on to something without considering the context. Thats ACs Law.// And the bread that we break is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? (1 Cor. And how binding is a modern fatwa? Blog I think his stupidity is a defense against the Truth that is the Roman Catholic Church. And well you might. Im sorry, but no. But Catholics really need to stop paying James White any attention. Which speaks volumes about the posters character. I had a much longer post analyzing Dr. Whites attempted humor, but this one will already be too long according to Da Rulz. I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. I have not gone off on a tangent, though you have. 1. When I discovered that the pope agreed with all of my theology and teaching I had discovered in the Bible, I felt it better that I go with the group Before anyone knew the state of what God had done (canon mediated), God infallibly knew the current state and content of canon (infallible). To infer such is illogical. Um. folks.) I have no doubt that many believe, truly believe, one way, and others another. If they are utterly ignorant of human nature, maybe. But. I defended ChurchMouses posting of the information you needed to ascertain who obtained the url. Admin Organization:to attn. Youre right that we will still be here despite any maltreatment. His disciples were empowered. It was that, or start yet another denomination. But I will reveal the truth to you: Its too late to save James White. Carebear, ThoughI must wonder did Paul post a picture of the Pharisees as a brood of vipers on his blog . Actually, CB, thanks to your shining example we dont have to. What would you say if I told you that the only logical response to that quoted statement was that you had obviously not never listened to White at all? Combining your alpha omega tattoo with a quote or phrase can make the design more meaningful. Perhaps you are not pleased at the entire point of this post and of the previous one isnt the topic you want, but its rather childish to show up and insist that it means weve all lost it and that Jimmy is trying to deceive or misdirect everyone? Foxfier wrote ages ago: Carebear, comments like: Came to you live from somewhere in the wilds of Texas today, will be in Houston tomorrow with the What is Marriage? debate on Wednesday. Faculty Mentor", "Bible experts Eric Mason, James White clash over racist history of abortion", "Announcing Dr. James White, Professor of Apologetics and Church History -", "New Horizons March 2008: A Better Case for, "Dr. James White vs Bro. (your post, not the URL, before a troll jumps on this). Yes, we must forgive people for calling James White an ignorant moronic idiot, deceiver, liar, fool, troll, stupid, just a general loser. He has authored or contributed to more than twenty four books, including The King . Christians are also called to help those brothers and sisters in Christ who are failing in some substantial matter of living their faith. Seeing as you cant do something if you dont know about it which would be unable and if you know of something, but dont want to, youre unwilling, and if you know of something but cant do it, you are unable. And the Crusades! Dont make the mistake of assuming I hold the same low standard as you. Now, to those defenders of White, I have a question. Wow, big discovery. May God grant us the grace and send the Holy Spirit to lead us to be ever more like Jesus. What can I say to that, in clear conscience? Actually, I think it was Dr. Beckwith who threw the first stone by calling Dr. White an uncharitable reader. The pictures might not be funny, but Esaus gratuitous usage of the caps lock button sure is. A normal day in the life of James White is nothing to us. But that could be topic for a whole nother thread. I do think you have a point. Yes, but they functioned psychologically in exactly the same way. He got the bright idea today, really only a few hours before we started, to use Zoom to allow folks to call in to the program today. Author==>writes book Canon==>canon contains 1 book(artifact of Revelation) with Kevin Johnson, Jesus Shall Reign in Onward, Christian Soldiers, Whats With the Dudes at the Door? How do you know that Hebrews is actually Scripture? It is hard to take back a joke but real easy to pull pictures off a website. When attention stops being paid, the screaming escalates. That is why I respect him. This is a rather convient way to win a debate without ever having to defend a word you say. Same goes for the generally less intense venom seen to some degree on both sides of the debate on this thread, except that I dont pretend to forgive offences that were commited against someone else not me, I just hope they come to repentance (were probably just talking venial sin here but it is still important). 1. Catholic Wayne- I know that one shouldnt bite to trolls, but you did very well. Finally I see now the ruse!!! Very well-spotted. White characterizes them as representative of all Catholics while failing to live up to the same standards of decency for what are undoubtedly his own actions. 1) Believe in secret, private revelation. Ergo Z est Y. Anymore ad hominem onel iners or are you actually going to deal with the picture issue and refute me? Youre arguing with a monergist here Thomas, not a synergist. Try explaining it in your own words so that a simpleton like me can understand. Usually Ill employ sarcasm + substance in order to make a point. The pictures pertain to those calling for charity, yet give none of it to begin with. IMHO, Whites arguments arent based upon anything but his declaration of what arises from Gods sovereignty. It undeniably Begs the Question. The point I was attempting to make earlier in this thread (since the website was again brought up as an issue) with my Disciples of James White Conspiracy Theory is that it is just as ridiculous as the Catholic Answers/Jimmy Akin/Catholic Church Conspiracy Theory. God is with us. Im torn between both myself reading this. This kind of excuse will not do. to the theology of Union with Christ. So I will stand up and say when people have boldly crossed the line.). No one else can know infallibly know this canon outside of the authors attempt to comunicate it to othersEven those closest to the author cannot know with utter certainty whether the author has used anyone else in the writing process or borrowed from another sourceTherefore, the originator of a book has an infallible knowledge of the works, while anyone else has a mediated knowledge, dependent upon the honest and the integrity of the author and the authors desire to make the canon known to others. In his commentary on St. John, in Ch 16, he says this: I dont see why he lets his emotions dictate his ministry. For what its worth, jamesrwhite.org is registered to an anonymous user of mapname.com, as of 6 days ago. The Manner of the Kingdom[2] Sacralism is a paradigm of absolute unity between church and state that could not, would not distinguish between material, institutional trappings of human magesterial authority and the spiritual realities of the heavenly kingdom. Something all Christians (Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant) can affirm together. Tech City:Riverside I really am asking, seriously, how do Protestants make these determinations. Evangelical Seminary (formerly Faraston Seminary). Ive met White and seen him debate. Bible versions are. Jesus: Divine Son of God or Prophet of Allah? For I had heard how Anthony had been admonished by a reading from the Gospel at which he chanced to be present, as if the words read were addressed to him: Go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven, and come, follow me. and that by such portent he was immediately converted to you. His revelation? if he repents doesnt seem to require us to forgive those who do not repent. The Epistle from Laodicea to the Colossians Gnosticism, that ancient heresy that the Church has constantly fought, is mainly characterized by two ideas: I accused Esau of knowingly committing fallacy, and dilineated exactly how he did it. The Epistle of Barnabas They are not Christian. If strong language to rebuke a sinner is uncharitable, we have a little problem here. But in two thousand years of history my denomination, as a denomination, has never killed anyone. Jimmy can admit a mistake; I dont know whether James can. But the first task in loving someone is to understand them. Not accurate but made more sense. Perhaps Jimmy is confident that truth will out in the free exchange of ideas, whereas White wants the freedom to throw out anything he likes without any dissenting voices. He complains that his interlocutors are refusing to discuss his real points, which Good idea, though. Im happy you put genuine in quotation marks, so as you differentiate the Gospel of Romanism from the Gospel of Christ. White wants the freedom to throw out whatever he feels like without any accountability to the community of his readers in the court of public opinion. Satanic counterfeit Bible versions also Because if he repents, you should forgive him. Exactly. How can you say it is SDGs personal determination when it is you who says it is? Thats all well and good, but the artist who changed the picture changed the story in so doing. Please feel free to visit me at The Porters Lodge. I think you should read his book The Roman Catholic Controversy and see what Dr. White has to say concerning the development of doctrine. Charity does include admonishing the sinner which Jimmy does by shaming Mr. Whites actions. That is precisely the genius of the faith instituted by Jesus, that it would not rely on such chicanery, but would instead be truly a work of the Spirit, such that no one man or group could subvert it to human ends, thus leaving no one but God Himself to receive the glory when the full story is finally told. The next Catholic who calls for the beheading of James White will see me join you in denunciation. corrupt Bible versions (although he admits he doesn't support all of them). The Revelation of Peter Those to Whom they personally Handed down they Faith and their Authority? Someone in this thread wrote: SINstitute and Bob Jones PANTSiversity) who say they prefer and mainly use Posted by: Churchmouse | Aug 10, 2007 10:51:50 AM. advocates of a false plan of salvation. What I am saying is that if a person thought it was somehow funny to use them, and responded belligerently when told that constitutes poor judgment, I certainly wouldnt try to discuss the finer points of race relations with him. The gnostic Baptist in me in wanted to run away. The best thing IMO is just to back away and give him space. Some of us believe that Jesus fed the 4,000 with a few fish and seven loaves through a miracle of God. Moreover, no Emperor regarded himself as the priest of his imperium. Ill bite However, I didnt wish to anger anyoneI see this entire thing as a joke, but I realize others obviously dont. Why should sound DO that? For anything that I have said here, a Roman Catholic has said something the same or much worse, and I dont consider anything Ive said here to be bad. Oh dear. Oh no,there was a gem amongst the comments, to be sure; Ah, you are looking the wrong way. Tim, I had to laugh at your comparison with Finding Nemo, so that was funny I dont know about his long post as a whole, but I thought that one sentence really captured the essence of the thread. How could understanding and knowledge in a mediated sense (read: human knowledge of the Canon) not be in some way dependent on the humans or the Church which is said to possess it? And just what is right and wrong? Does it convey the information that you claim that he wants to convey, namely If you believe that, go re-read this thread. No, you did that. call me Fox like Esau has. he has filled in a joke template, but I can also see that it may have no humor in it, at least for many people. Ask the Pastor show on The Church Channel.) It is the burden of one affirming a positive to prove their case first. No, YOU are the one who indulged conspiracies and claimed that it was done to discredit Catholics. How many videos of Baptists or Calvinists being beheaded by hooded authoritarian Catholics have been uploaded to the Internet? This thread was about his humor, not his theology. Pope St Pius X pray for us! Does an OSASer lose salvation when he converts to Presbyterianism? There is nothing wrong with Whites assertion that God would know what he wrote (or inspired to be written), and that if he chose to he could name them all. The priest jsut sits there takes it all in. *see above posts for examples* It is not inhuman to feel insulted when one is compared to terrorists, as these pictures would initially strike this sort of vile comparison at the onset. Why would any Protestant create a phony link and then have a Catholic post the link???. //Maybe you think calling Mr. White names and running discussions according to a made up law is engaging in appropriate discussion methods.// Sorry, Gwen, but your post style so so like Carebears that I didnt notice when you jumped into a conversation. Sandy, choose a side. seeing as you deem him important enough to name your apologetics website after him?. Nameless, It is merely pointing out an anomaly. James is obviously in the end stage of the affliction. SOURCE: James White - Wikipedia That said, some interesting points were brought up (and occasionally trampled). Though a debate in format, this was more of a dialogue, as Justin Lee dislikes the term debate and would not engage Five hours, fifteen minutes. Stubblepark, 2) Some persons suggest that Mr. Whites manner of criticizing Dr. Beckwith is wanting in the Charity that he, as member and especially as a leader in the Christian church, is obliged to handle matters with. So you respond. I would like to invite Evangelicals, including those who have been close to White, to both publicly and privately distance themselves from the actions of Mr. White in posting these pictures as an act fundamentally incompatible with Christian charity. By the by, http://www.jameswhite.org for the CA website url? B.A. Box 5121 This is one of them. Talk about your sins against the Holy Spirit! Well, my husband-to-be just called, so Ive no more time to waste on you for a while. There can be no excuse for this. You may be missing my point, which is, how did you make your determination that Christs authority is in the Catholic Church? I also see things coming from people on all sides of the debate that, quite frankly, shock me. Look to the Roman Catholics here too, because theyve done the same and much much worse. prophets in Acts 15:1 were not saved. Went almost two hours today but its an important program. 2. the Bible teaches, attend a church that teaches the Bible! b. On what evidence do you make this assertion? It was very gracious of you to paint Dr. White as an Islamic fundamentalist. Russ, absolutely. A humor killer is an attempt at humor that defeats itself by using contextual elements that are horrific or defeats the ability of an audience to access certain areas of mental space safely. Alternatively, depending on your preferences, you can also choose a design like this. Compare the iconoclasm, similar views on divine election, disdain for priesthood, and belief that the individual can read scripture outside of any binding authoritative framework, and voila: Critical similarities between Reformed Christianity and Islam. Or is it only acceptable for James White to do that??? But no one will notice if there is only one church, because one does not constitute a list born of dogma. This design is not only related to Jesus but also offers the message of peace. Did Jesus tell us to forgive only those who ask forgiveness? Gosh! Why not just say, God did it, since to attribute Gods work to mans work is unbiblical. But if it is legitimate to say that God used the distinctive personalities and historical circumstances of these figures to communicate his truth, then something can be both 100% Gods doing and human beings cooperate. In recent years James has debated in such locations as Sydney, Australia, as well as mosques in Toronto, London, and South Africa. GOD knows who did it, but one thing can be certain, NO PROTESTANT would go through such extremes let alone steer folks to Catholic Answers. Yes, there have been, and they are also indefensible. Esau: This fellow painted Dr. White an islamic fundamentalist before Dr. White ever made the pictures in question. Benigne dicis. Nevertheless, James White is bad news for promoting counterfeit Bible versions Esau, Alpha & Omega 115 Trucker Hat. StubbleSparks epiphany for the day: More ad hominem. GL, Brett Jesus forgave those who repented. YOU are the one who indulged conspiracies and claimed that it was done to discredit Catholics. his interloctur(s). Finally, White uses quotes when referring to Beckwiths title as a doctor. ~Stu. Donald Casadonte, I take my hat off to you. Perhaps its the dark heart of the matter. Those who share a certain world view (i.e., who are not emotionally invested in the context) might find the joke text humorous, but not other groups. Its like watching Howard Dean all over again. The Book of Shemaiah Now instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 2. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a person who is mentally deranged: insane actions; an insane asylum. 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